This episode looks at the importance of psychotherapists working on their own emotional process. Marco Mendes tells the story of his own experience of shame in the course of training as an Emotion Focused Therapist and describes the impact of one small moment during his training in transforming the pain of his shameful experience.

How does an engineer change into a world leading ‘emotion-ologist’? Leslie Greenberg tells the story of this evolution and the pathway he took to learning how to Change Emotion with Emotion.